1) from politicaloutcast.com: 'Empire Striking Back: GOP Gearing Up For War Against Tea Party' - Mark Home - Oct. 25
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blacksunshine84 Earl P. Holt III • 13 hours ago- −
Ted Cruz won't admit that he is ineligible to be POTUS. That makes him part of the problem.
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Earl P. Holt III blacksunshine84 • 13 hours ago- −
If an illegal alien and communist can be President, then ANYBODY can...
Did you know that Obama has spent $3 Million in legal fees to prevent the release of his student transcripts from Occidental College, Columbia University and Harvard Law, probably because he engaged in several of thousands of felonies he's committed by applying as a Foreign Student...???
I'm gonna bet you didn't know: They don't call you people "Low Information Voters" for nothing...
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kibitzer3 Earl P. Holt III • a minute ago [early Oct. 26]- −
Earl, you are firing at the wrong target. I don't know how so many presumed patriots have this matter so wrong (I say 'presumed', because many of you may well be trolls), but it's time that at least PATRIOTS got this matter right:
The term 'natural born citizen' was put in the Constitution by its Framers as a qualification for the office of the presidency - and that particular office ONLY - so that the candidate, who would also become the Commander in Chief of the nation's military forces, would not have DUAL LOYALTIES OR ALLEGIANCES - like a DUAL CITIZEN would. That being because the term meant to the Framers - and still means; there has never been any amendment to the contrary - a person born on the soil (or its equivalent; like a military base) of U.S. citizen parents - PLURAL. Got it?? NO DUAL CITIZENS.
The clincher of that intention of the Framers (as I say: for that particular office ONLY) is that Alexander Hamilton proposed that the presidential candidate need be only a 'citizen' - and his proposal WAS REJECTED.
Some leftists have tried to argue that the term only rules out a 'naturalized' citizen; all other citizens being 'natural born'. That is a nonsense. Stop and think: A DUAL citizen would have even MORE of the taint of DUAL LOYALTIES OR ALLEGIANCES about him or her than a NATURALIZED citizen would - thus defeating the whole PURPOSE of the exercise. (See Mario Apuzzo and/or Prof. Herb Titus on the legalities of this issue.)
Come ON, Patriots. Wake up and smell the truth of the matter: that we have had a USURPER in the Oval Office for the past two terms - and are about to lose our country to the socialists amongst us, because we have trusted that the Republican Party would have let 'us' know if Obama were ineligible for the office. Wakey wakey: the Republican Party HAS BEEN IN ON THE SCAM. How do I know? A good indication: Both parties tried a total of 8 times between 2003 and 2008 to get a constitutional amendment starting through Congress on this very issue, to make it easier for both their parties' candidates in the future - and they failed even to get them out of committee every time (the committee reps obviously figuring that it would be too difficult an issue to get all the way through the amending process). So it is rather obvious that they colluded in a quid pro quo deal: We won't say anything about your candidate if you won't say anything about ours. And thus have both main political parties sealed their fate, as too corrupt to be allowed to continue.
It's time that the nation got back to the rule of law; meaning the Constitution, as it was drafted and has been (legally) amended. And THAT'S what Patriot types should be working for. Not trying to make two wrongs make a right. So that's why I say: Come ON. Tempus fugit.- •
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kibitzer3 kibitzer3 • a few seconds ago
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P.S. "And thus have both main political parties sealed their fate, as too corrupt to be allowed to continue." What do i mean by that, precisely? Precisely this:
The Democrat Party, having committed a heinous crime against the Constitution, for swearing Barack H. Obama to be an eligible candidate for the office of the president, needs to be dismantled; and the Republican party, having colluded in the crime, needs to suffer the same fate. The People reframing themselves in new political constructs.
It's time to get real about this matter, folks. Or the federal constitutional Republic of the United States of America is doomed.
AT YOUR HANDS. For not being up to the job, that Fate presented you with.
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blacksunshine84 Earl P. Holt III • 13 hours ago- −
Keep it up and you will lose AGAIN in 2016 because me and millions like me will not vote for an ineligible candidate.- 3 3
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Earl P. Holt III blacksunshine84 • 13 hours ago- −
What expertise do you have in concluding that he is Constitutionally ineligible? I'm betting he's gonna make a very good argument that he IS, in fact eligible.
My impression is that both parents were American citizens, although they moved to Canada at some point.
As to losing the Constitution: Are you kidding? The only thing left is the Second Amendment, or they would have sent us to the Gulag years ago...
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blacksunshine84 Earl P. Holt III • 13 hours ago- −
And you're wrong. I do know about 0webama's fraud. Two wrongs won't make a right. We'll just lose our constitution.- 2 2
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2) from politicaloutcast.com: 'Empire Striking Back: GOP Gearing Up For War Against Tea Party' - Mark Home - Oct. 25 (Part 2: Oct. 26)
(Responding to my P.S. of very early this morning, Oct. 26)
Earl P. Holt III kibitzer3 • 13 hours ago (Oct. 26)- −
As they lead you off to the American equivalent of the Gulag during a Hillary Clinton Presidency -- or perhaps an Obama 3rd Term -- just remember that you are responsible for your own predicament, because you refused to vote for the best Presidential candidate since George Washington, owing to your obsession with a minor technicality which may not be as clear-cut as you suggest...- •
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Earl P. Holt III Earl P. Holt III • 12 hours ago- −
POSTSCRIPT:
After the Battle of First Manassas, if the South had pursued fleeing Yankees all the way into Washington, they could have seized and imprisoned Lincoln and his entire Cabinet, and then sued for Peace on very attractive terms. It would have saved 650,000 lives, and ended the war at that point.
We did not pursue the enemy back to Washington because of a preoccupation with "chivalric" notions that the war was an "invasion" by the North, and that we made no claims on northern soil. Our chivalry was rewarded with Sherman's March and his "total" warfare against the civilian populations of the South.
When one is in a fight for his life -- and his very existence is threatened -- it is best not to be OVERLY-SCRUPULOUS about minor technicalities..- 1
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kibitzer3 Earl P. Holt III • a few seconds ago [evening of Oct. 26]- −
Earl, your take on "a minor technicality" is precisely the take on the matter that the Democrats will try to use when the proverbial you-know-what hits the proverbial you-know-what, with the proof that Obama signed off on a forged document; all of which is felonious in its own right, sufficient for him to be dismissed from the office even without the need for formal impeachment proceedings. The Democrats will bleat about "minor technicalities," once we start going down that sort of road. The road that leads to perdition, for getting into compromised territory. This is the Constitution that we are talking about. Not "just a damn piece of paper," as another recent wannabe tyrant tried to make it out to be.
And now we're getting down to the gist of the matter. For, just as the Democrat Party is guilty of crimes, so is the Republican Party. And not just in going along/colluding with the Democrat Party in this crime against the rule of law in the country - i.e., the Constitution. But in its office holders (and their NeoCon acolytes) having been involved with the atrocity against the nation known as 9/11; which facts are beginning to come out as well. That is why I say it's time for a clean sweep of the criminals in and of both major political parties - and of the parties themselves, as accessories to the facts of the crimes that have been committed on their respective watches.
And that's how the nation will get behind this action: because it involves both sides of the political aisle, in corruption, and outright criminal activity. Thus, both Republicans and Democrats - along with others of The People - should be involved in a March on Washington, to a) dissolve Congress, for not doing its constitutional duty in regards to the rogue Usurper in the highest office in the land; b) stay there - in shifts - surrounding the White House until the Usurper relinquishes his throne; and c) appoint an Officer of The People, to call for elections to be held 'within a time certain,' and in the meantime, to clean out the Executive branch of the federal government of its termites - from both the left side AND the right side of politics (both Parties being guilty of infesting that branch with its representatives involved in partisan skullduggery).
For the Truth of things MUST be honored. The Truth of ALL things. Before we can proceed from this major watershed point.
Not a "minor" one at all.
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- Don39 kibitzer3 • 9 hours ago
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- Yes ,but we have the parties and they are all at this point, so the question is what do we do about it? Until the majority is convinced that they have been betrayed they will not get behind any effort to make a rapid and drastic change assuming enough that really care are left to do so.The best chance we have it appears to me is to hope that the current regime makes a fatal mistake which will spur the majority to action. I think that we are at that kindling point with Obamacare at this time and the next major looming opportunity may be with forced amnesty, or a combination of the two. Our best hope to await the striking of the critical match and be prepared to act when the match is struck! I believe that the insidious cancer that has captured our nation can only be cured by radical surgery at this point!
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kibitzer3 Don39 • a few seconds ago [minutes after my comment above to Earl; Oct. 26]- −
- Don39, you're actually making my point. See my reply to Earl that I have just posted. It's watershed time. It's not just a matter of waiting for a "kindling point with Obamacare," and/or a move by the Dems (and weak- kneed Repubs) to "forced amnesty, or a combination of the two." We must take this bull by the horns - honorable Democrats on the one 'horn', and honorable (not just in it for themselves) Republicans on the other. The fate of the nation is at stake, as a federal constitutional Republic - NOT a tool, or plaything, of totalitarians, from either side of the political aisle.
- "Affairs are now soul size," the playwright said; continuing: "We are engaged in exploration into God." Not petty partisan politics. Much more is at stake than that. We are being called on to reach higher, much higher, than that.
- Far too many patriots look on this issue of Obama's ineligibility as "a minor technicality". How foolishly shortsighted. If a part of the Constitution goes - and such an incredibly important part of it, at that - so goes the Constitution itself. It will, indeed, become "just a damn piece of paper". And with it, goes the last, best hope of mankind - to understand the point, and value, of a nation governing itself, with the individuals as the sovereign. Not Royalty nor Church nor Oligarchy nor Despot. But The People, living their lives free from undue coercion, under the rule of law - of limited government.
- The Constitution must live. Or The People will perish.
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