In Common Cause for the Future...

...of the United States, and The World.

I have just been engaging in an email exchange with a key member of the OWS Movement. He/they want to organise an American Spring march on Washington D.C. at the end of March next year, in part because of the danger presented by a piece of legislation just passed by both houses of Congress that will make of the American homeland a battlefield - in the intentionally-created War on Terror (for just such purposes) - and thus will eliminate what is called Posse Comitatus, which is a bit of law in America that keeps the military from being involved in domestic matters. Passed in the aftermath of the Civil War, it has been a thorn in the side of the PTB who want, and have been scheming, to take America down, and make of it a mere part of a region of their vaunted New World Order for the planet as a whole.* America, and its Constitution, have stood in their way; it's now showtime. And the OWS Movement is feeling - and rightly so - that they could well be caught up in the vague wording of the law, that could well make them 'terrorists' in the eyes of the American government (as has already been modeled in the UK), and thus subject to indefinite detention (no constitutional protections), until 'the end of hostilities'. Which in practice means until the twelfth of Never - "and that's a long long time".

I contributed a comment on the thread of a blog on this subject; which led to an exchange that may be of general interest. Herewith.


Re: [OWSnews.org] Comment: "Say NO to the Use of the Military in the United States"

[My Comment, of 16/12:]

Well put, [X], and well spotted about the wording in the NDAA. The key to understanding the intention of TPTB in this bit of legalistic legerdemain is that amendments to specifically prohibit the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens from the legislation was voted down. 'The requirement to detain...does not extend' is simply obfuscation; it doesn't rule it out. Posse Comitatus is dead - unless a radical move is made by The People. And one which will - could - unite the (real) Tea Partiers and Oathkeepers to this cause. And that is to recognize the very apparent illegality of Obama to occupy that office. If he is made to vacate the office, because he is a usurper, all legislation that he has signed into law is null and void, and We the People start over (including nullifying the so-called Patriot Act) . [my added emphasis]

What is needed is for that American Spring gathering to demand that either Obama release all of his bona fides - and explain the obvious forgery of both of the bc's that he has condoned the release of - or vacate the office forthwith; with The People appointing an Officer OF The People to hold that space, who will dissolve Congress - for not doing their constitutional duty in regards to this outrageous usurpation of the office - and call for elections within 'a time certain' (say 90 days); and who will also clean out the Augean stables of the executive branch of government while he (or she) is at it. For this is a bipartisan crime, which the investigation into it will uncover, and so is not a Republican vs Democrat crime. There's plenty of chicanery to go around the whole lot of them, as perpetraitors to the American republic. (And who was it who characterized the Constitution as just "a damn piece of paper", again??...)

The People need to take back their country, from the planned-for totalitarian New World Order of either the Right or the Left. The answer is, rather, to go Up. But that's another matter. For now: Seize the day, OWS; and make Common Cause with the rest of the 99%.

Again: Well spotted. And keep spotting, and reporting on, signs of The Takeover. Which could well include a Martial Law-triggering attack on Iran. Martial Law-triggering, from the reaction of a populace no longer cowed by their erstwhile Masters, and feeling their solidarity with one another, as Americans. Not as serfs to an Empiric power. That would be exampling a warning of old: that Without a vision, the people perish.


[to me]
I can't believe people are still wasting their time on the nonsense of his birth certificate! What nonsense. There are many more important reasons to criticize Obama that stupid shit like that.


[me to [X]
So you've just made your position clear..

Thanks for the info. I won't bother with supporting your initiative any longer.

You are part of the problem.


[to me]
Fine. Obama's birth certificate has been made public, even Donald Trump acknowledges it. I thought the birther movement had died with that release. You are the only person I have seen raise the issue since then.

I am a major critic of Obama and will not support him in anyway but I don't need a losing argument to criticize him. I hope he loses, don't care who wins (they are all lousy).


[me to {X}
Based on your response, I'll back off a bit, because you've raised a good point: Most people won't know about this ongoing scandal because the MSM won't report on it (WorldNetDaily & the Western Center for Journalism, among other right-wing sites, have documented in spades the forgery flaws in Obama's purported long-form bc; as in the earlier COLB). The People won't hear about it on Fox News either because their Masters are in on the scam. The fix is in at the top, of both main political parties. Obama is doing the bidding of The Insiders because they made him an offer he couldn't refuse (know about his background). You are right to be angry at him. He is in the control of his puppet masters.

The American people have been asleep at a switch. They have bought a pig in a poke for their presidency. It has been like a fake check for a lottery winner to look at. 'See? Here's the check. Now all you have to do...'

There is still a legitimate 2-party difference in America, way of looking at politics. I 'get' that you are for participatory democracy (because you have seen the corruption 'inherent' in the current system); and most conservatives are for a [constitutional] republican form of government, so that minorities - ie, as individuals - have protection from the potential oppression of the majority. But there is a wide swath of common ground between the (real, grassroots) Tea Partiers and OWS types who are standing (occupying), with good reason, against the nexus between the corporate world & the government. That is nascent full-blown fascism on the Right. But socialism/syndicalism on the Left is also nascently totalitarian by nature. Neither is the answer for the future; they embody both Scylla and Charybdis. The OWS Movement can meet in the center with those other good Americans of the 99% who don't want the very financially and politically powerful running the world - for obvious reasons now.

Make common cause. Don't separate yourselves from them. Meet in the middle. And that could well mean that you need to recognize that Obama is a ringer; not just a failure in your political eyes

Do a little homework in this regard. You'll be better off in the long run, if you do. And so will your Movement.

Stan"


Closing comment: I hope the OWS Movement and the Tea Partiers do make common cause on this matter. It is NOT a matter of either/or between them; that is a false dichotomy. They have a common enemy.

As do we all, who wish for the highest for humanity.

Not the lowest.


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* This is why 'they' have developed connections over many years with the likes of Red China - arranging for stolen military documents from the U.S.'s Top Secret vaults to make their way to the communist masters of the China mainland. Those masters are to be 'cut in on the deal'. At least, that is the intention.
We'll see.