I felt moved today to email the author of one of the books that I am currently reading, ‘Caesar’s Messiah: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus’ by Joseph Atwill. It is a most compelling book,1 which makes the case, briefly, that Christianity was created by the Flavian dynasty of Roman emperors - Vespasian the Father and Titus the Son, with the younger son, Domitian, coming along later, and keeping the fraud going - in order, first, to help them onto the throne - by attempting to quell the rebellious Jews in that part of the Empire, by creating a Messiah that was deferential to the Roman emperor, and, when the Jews failed to follow that kind of leadership, to admonish them, in the form of the destruction of their Temple in Jerusalem and the sacking of Jerusalem itself; and secondly, to continue in that tradition, of the Roman emperor having become the messianic messenger that the Jews were expecting, now to be nice, docile subjects to the Roman throne for ever and ever after, amen.
How did he ever come up with such an idea? Atwill, on his approach:
“While reading Josephus’ Wars of the Jews,2 and his account of Titus’ destruction of Jerusalem in 70 C.E., I noticed curious parallels to stories in the Gospels. At first I could make no sense of the parallels between Titus’ campaign and Jesus’ ministry. So I tried to look at the Gospels with fresh eyes, as if I had never seen them before, giving up preconceived notions about what they meant.
“This perspective resulted in the discoveries presented in this book…”
And most intriguing, and compelling, “discoveries” they have been. But you will have to read it to ‘discover’ for yourself why it is such a valuable commentary on the whole question, of Christianity. Now, as to why I mention this:
In my email to him, I mentioned how my own journey in thirsting after the truth of things had led me to some of the same ‘watering holes’ that he mentioned that he was drawn to, in particular the Dead Sea Scrolls. Not that he went into any great detail about his other pursuits along this line. But I mentioned to him how my trail had led me via such other researchers/authors as Tony Bushby, Ralph Ellis, and D.M. Murdock/Acharya S.3 Which brings up a point. To wit: How does his contribution to the literature on the subject jibe with any of the other authors that I have mentioned, whose material has helped me along my journey, from watering hole to watering hole??
That is worth a look. For example, it would seem to contradict Ellis’s take on such things - that Jesus was the last in a long line of pharaohs. But in applying Atwill’s recommended approach to such matters, I have been able to ‘see through fresh eyes’ - and have come across a most intriguing conclusion:
We’re talking about two different Jesuses, here.
Atwill’s take: Josephus Flavius, a Jewish historian who ingratiated himself with the Flavians in order to save his own neck and the neck of a small bunch of priestly class of Jews plus their extended families, was the main instigator of a concocted story, set in the beginning of the generation that saw Titus sack Jerusalem and destroy the Temple, which led the reader subtly to ‘see’ that Titus was the prophesied Son of Man who would come and fulfill prophecy in that destruction; whereas if the Jews had only heeded the admonitions of a concocted Messiah, Jesus, to ‘render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s’ and pay their taxes, and ‘turn the other cheek’ like good little sheeple, and so forth, that they could have avoided such divine retribution; and that henceforth, with the Second Coming in the form of Titus, the Roman emperor-to-be (after his father, Vespasian), they should fall in line, and behave themselves, dammit.4
Here’s the Ellis take on this business.
The Jesus that he writes about was a king of a northern Syrian kingdom, called Edessa, who helped lead the Jews in the defense of their way of life and Temple leading up to Jerusalem’s sacking and the Temple’s demolition by Titus. Captured, he was crucified, but was taken down and taken before Vespasian, then in Alexandria, and given an option: He could still be put to death. Or, he could swear that he witnessed a miracle at the hand of Vespasian (the sort of thing that got him elevated to the emperor’s throne, by way of being considered - being thus qualified to be considered - god-like), and he, Vespasian, would let him live out his life, albeit in exile. Which, in the event (according to Ellis), happened. And that Jesus ended up in exile in the furthermost reaches of the Roman Empire, over on the west coast of the British Isles. In a place now called Chester. Where there is archaeological evidence for a peculiar arrangement: An enclosed space capable of being well guarded, with a religious sanctuary in the middle, its flooring relating to the ‘firmament’ - the Zodiac. And other evidences, that Arthur Lived Here. That’s King Arthur, of fable. But quite possibly based on a true situation: a kingly personage being held captive. With his entourage. Who has come down to us known as Artur - that is, The Bear. After the Big Dipper. Pointing to True North; around which the whole of the firmament revolves.5
The Once and Future King.
Quite something, this tale of ours, that we have been living through.
And not always noticing the guidemarkers along the way.
Without looking with fresh eyes.
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footnotes:
1 Here, I have to admit to a trait of mine: No matter how compelling a read may be that I am engaged in, I still keep more than one book going at a time. It’s just the way my mind works. I think it’s because I want the material to percolate a bit, before I move on in it. Anyway, just to clarify any references I make, herein or elsewhere, to being involved in more than one read at a time: It is no reflection of lack of keen interest in what I am reading. More, the opposite, if anything.
2 because he had a passion for Truth, and, having been born into the Catholic faith, he was curious how, “at the exact same time that the followers of Jesus were purportedly organizing themselves into a religion that urged its members to ‘turn the other cheek,’ another Judean sect was waging a religious war against the Romans...It seemed implausible to me that two diametrically opposite forms of messianic Judaism could have emerged from Judea at the same time…”
3 I forgot to mention to him the latest watering hole on my journey through the otherwise parched deserts of history: ‘The Secret Society of Moses’ (subtitled ‘The Mosaic Bloodline and a Conspiracy Spanning Three Millennia’) by Flavio Barbiero. Still deliciously bogged down in that one. Getting through its dense pages slowly. The same with Atwill’s book.
Nothing of value should be savored other than slowly.
Good to remember, when talking about ‘history’ - the life thereof.
But to continue.
4 The Flavians, then, via their adopted Jewish historian, Josephus, and undoubtedly clever others of the patrician family, created Christianity - as attested to by the fact that the earliest martyrs to the religion were from that family; other Romans not taking kindly to the new kid on the block, as it were. it took awhile, before Christianity finally became the state religion of the Roman Empire, through such means of intrigue. All, another story. Just to note that there are, to this day: Jews under the cloak of Christianity. Leading the way, to - whatever.
The End. Hopefully. Deceit not being a way that she would live our lives by.
And will not be able to, anyway. In
The New.
But to continue.
5 Ellis thinks that the discrepancy between his take on the Jesus 'thing' and the New Testament story ('story') is simply a matter of chronology, and the latter simply needs to be set forward some 40 years, to the time of the destruction of the Temple.
He needs to read Atwill's book. To engage in the subject with fresh eyes.
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But to continue.
5 Ellis thinks that the discrepancy between his take on the Jesus 'thing' and the New Testament story ('story') is simply a matter of chronology, and the latter simply needs to be set forward some 40 years, to the time of the destruction of the Temple.
He needs to read Atwill's book. To engage in the subject with fresh eyes.
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Meanwhile, back on the home front:
from jamesfetzer.blogspot.com: ‘Dr. Eowyn: Arkancide: Seth Rich was murdered for leaking DNC emails to WikiLeaks’ - Dr. Eowyn - May 16; posted here May 17
- Joseph OlsonMay 16, 2017 at 6:59 AM
"Indict and Arrest These Two" at > BeforeItsNews.com- Larry Klayman, of Judicial Watch is representing Dennis Montgomery, NSA whistleblower who delivered 47 hard drives, containing 600 million pages of illegal wiretaps to Howdy Doody Comey over TWO YEARS AGO. Included were spying on Trump family, Congress and over 150 judges.
- Comey was cover-up artist for Wall Street as NYC district US Attorney, DOD bid rigger for Lockheed and money launder for HSBC. The entire government-media complex is a RICO Operation.
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MAYOR ADAM WESTMay 17, 2017 at 6:13 PM
A federal investigator who reviewed an FBI forensic report detailing the contents of DNC staffer Seth Rich’s computer generated within 96 hours after his murder, said Rich made contact with WikiLeaks through Gavin MacFadyen, a now-deceased American investigative reporter, documentary filmmaker, and director of WikiLeaks who was living in London at the time.- “I have seen and read the emails between Seth Rich and Wikileaks,” the federal investigator told Fox News, confirming the MacFadyen connection. He said the emails are in possession of the FBI, while the stalled case is in the hands of the Washington Police Department.
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StanMay 18, 2017 at 12:20 AM
Damn swamp. Clear the lot of them out of there - including the chiefs who can call down the curtain on investigations. It's time, and almost past, for a major overhaul in this country.- —
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr…………………….
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A late entry to this latter subject (which also goes to Where We Are At):
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A late entry to this latter subject (which also goes to Where We Are At):
from rickwells.us: ‘What Happened to The Big WikiLeaks Rich Murder News That Never Came?’ - Rick Wells - May 18
(The private eye for the Rich family has backed out of his claims…the DC Mayor is skating……the DC Police Dept is washing its hands of the whole thing………)
- Stan // May 18, 2017 at 3:57 pm // Reply
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Some bodies were made an offer that they couldn’t refuse…
Seth Rich deserves better. The family of Seth Rich deserves better. The American people deserve better. Come on, Donald: Rise to the occasion. Call out the National Guard if you have to. Put people under protective custody if you have to. But DRAIN THIS EFFING SWAMP.
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