A Call to 'Arms'

[Some comments today on the Comments thread to a Western Journalism article entitled 'Obama Could Nullify the 2nd Amendment' - posted today, 23 July, by Doug Book,  I am kibitzer2.  It's all self-explanatory.]

Doug Book says:

July 23, 2012 at 3:01 pm

The real question in all of this is: Would Obama have the arrogance to try it? And the answer is– OF COURSE!! Over the past 4 years he has: received tens of millions in patently illegal campaign contributions; successfully placed a liar on the Supreme Court; made appointments without required Senate approval; directed hundreds of millions of tax dollars to campaign contributors; ignored court rulings; occupied an office for which he may not be constitutionally qualified; placed a known forged document on the White House website…and the list goes on! 

NO ONE in a position of power has called him on these things. He knows the gutless members of the Republican Party will let him get by with murder lest they be called RAAAAACISTS! Therefore, why would he not continue on with a scheme to overturn the 2nd Amendment??!! Who will call him on it? Mitchie McConnell? John Boehner? John Roberts? If Obama wins in November I’ll increase my already extensive self-defense inventories dramatically, as–I would guess– will a great many others. For we will undoubtedly have occasion to need them.

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• my911 says:
  July 23, 2012 at 3:51 pm
  doug,
  RE
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  Therefore, why would he not continue on with a scheme to overturn the 2nd Amendment??!! Who will call him on it?
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  I will….. plus, hopefully, 67 million gun owners.
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  THAT is why nobummer MUST be defeated this NOV!
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg9m1F8B2_c
  FIRE the LIAR!
  Forget the corrupt DoJ
  Forget the Supreme Court
  Forget the hopeless/ hapless White House
  Join me on Nov 6 in Voters Court to
  VTCLBO ! ! ! !
  
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• Doug Book says:
  July 23, 2012 at 5:14 pm
  my911,
  No, I mean who in DC, in a position of power would actually call Obama on his unconstitutional scheme. I agree that a lot of gun owners would cause Barack and the feds some problems. But our elected representatives should make it unnecessary for American gun owners to take a hand. Unfortunately, most of them have shown they prefer power and creation of wealth to honoring their oath of office.
  
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• kibitzer2 says:
  July 23, 2012 at 6:41 pm
  Indeed, Doug. And that in part is why the dilemma we are in needs to be answered with a swift stroke from an unexpected direction. MacArthur did it by his game-wlnning move in Korea in outflanking his enemy with his landing at Inchon. We can do it by outflanking the sitting Congress with a landing in Washington D.C. by The People. A march led by Oathkeepers, current and past, and the militias of the several States, and 2nd Amendmenters & 10th Amendmenters & Article Twoers & Tea Partiers & those of the Occupy Movement who have realized the danger of having someone in the presidency who does not feel obligated to play by the rule-of-law book, has become a law unto himself, a la such other tyrants in history as Hitler; with all those other members of the public who are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore. To stay there, in orderly rotations, and in nonviolent civil disobedience, until the Usurper vacates the office he is illegally occupying; also dissolving the sitting Congress, for being an accessory to & after the fact of Obama’s illegal occupation of said office; and appointing an Officer OF the People, to call for elections within a time certain, and hold that space in the meantime, with a broom, sweeping out the Augean stables of the executive branch of government of all those appointees who can’t pass the (corruption) smell test. The judicial branch being swept out as well – for having not allowed justice to be served on this constitutional issue – and reinstated by judges appointed by The People; choosing who will interpret the law that is to be used over them – We, The People. Standing up on our hind legs and saying ‘Enough!’ to power. 
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  Understand: the Congress has forfeited its right to be a party to this setting of things right in the Republic. They have to earn their way back in their legal place, in the 3-branched form of government that was instituted by the Founders – for good reason. To make sure that all power did not gravitate to any one branch. Or two. Little did they know that it could have been usurped by all 3 branches. Leaving, as the last resort, The People to set things right. The missing piece to the picture of governance in the United States at this time. Who are now being called upon to assert their authority, in a form of government that is of, by, and for The People. NOT their overseers. 
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  So the fact that the Congress is not doing its job, in unseating the Usurper from his seat of power, need not stymie justice from being served. Art. II, Sect. 1. If the Congress is part of the problem, The People remain – as ever, in our form of government – the solution. 
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  They just need to make their voice heard, now. Loud and crystal clear. With Love for a better way of being, than is being demonstrated by these lesser souls having power over them at this time. It is time for that power to revert to its proper source. With the admonition from The People, in this hard-learned lesson: Never again, to let tyrants rule over them.
  
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• AZ-Ike says:
• July 23, 2012 at 6:00 pm
• Doug,
• Twice you asked the question “how could Obama’s signature alone (without the constitutionally required 2/3 agreement of the Senate) impose UN Treaty mandates on U.S. citizens?” Your answer seems to be the Law of Treaties, itself. You state that Article 18 of the Vienna Convention controls the imposition of Treaty mandates on signatory nations. However, there are two points that need to be discussed.
• The first relates to the United States and our unique form of self-government based on the freedoms derived from
  ‘The Laws of Nature and Nature’s God,’ and the Natural Rights endowed by the Creator to all people. The United States is the only nation in the history of the world to declare the sovereign Authority of the nation belongs to the People. It is why we are known as ‘exceptional’ U.S.A. The People, themselves, decided that ‘to secure their Rights, a Government would be ‘instituted among Men’ deriving its just powers from the ‘consent of the governed.’ Guaranteeing those Rights for the citizens of the nation, The Constitution FOR the United States was written BY the People and FOR the People.
• The Constitution is a written contract ratified by every State and a majority of the People. It can only be amended (or replaced) by the ratification of 3/4 of the several States. It cannot be destroyed by any source either within or outside the United States except by the People, themselves, because they are the only participants in the contract. Through the Constitution, the People impose(d) restrictions on and grant(ed) limited authority to Government. Our elected Government may ignore the contract, as has been increasingly done for the past century or more, but only if the People ALLOW Government to do so.
• There is no legal authority, including from our own Government acting against the Constitution, which can be imposed on the People without our consent. Therefore, I don’t believe that any ‘legal’ international court could impose the mandates of the Treaty on the United States if it was signed contrary to the provisions of the Constitution. It is always possible, of course, that international courts will act just as illegally and unethically as our own judicial system has increasingly done. It is a very obvious conclusion that all three Branches of our Government, Executive, Legislative (Congress,) and Judicial, are now acting together to undermine the Constitution and override the ‘consent of the governed’ in an attempt to gain control of this nation. They hope the majority of the People won’t realize we are giving up our contractually guaranteed Authority and our Rights to Liberty and Justice. However, as the Japanese stated when they bombed Pearl Harbor, ‘we have awakened a sleeping giant.’ Certainly the events and Administrations of the 21st century, particularly Obama’s Administration, have done just that.
• That leads to the second point; the People of the United States, and particularly those ardent supporters of the 2nd Amendment Right to bear Arms. ALL laws restricting Arms, no matter how they are framed or written, attempt to take Arms away from law-abiding citizens. Criminals and those for whom power and control are ultimate goals ignore laws that impede their goals, so the act of restricting Arms will always apply only to citizens who act within the laws of a just society. For millennia people have ALWAYS known they had the right to defend themselves against others. The Founding Fathers guaranteed the ‘Right to bear Arms’ in order for the People to ‘defend’ themselves against an overreaching, tyrannical government.
• Do you ever wonder why we have had so many acts of mass murder in the past 30 – 40 years? Each time there are demands by ‘liberals’ for restricting gun ownership. Do you wonder if any, or all of these murderers have been ‘programmed’ to implode and then perpetrate these atrocities? 20 years ago, I wouldn’t have believed our government could do such a thing. Today? I have little trouble believing they could be involved. That is one more terrible burden of Government’s tyranny as they act to consolidate control of the People and remove our sovereign Authority—IF WE LET THEM.
• We must tell our Senators there will be consequences for their consent to the Treaty. If the criminal Usurper signs the Treaty, with or without Senate approval, the People must act; arresting him and prosecuting his criminal and treasonous actions, as well as all others who have aided and abetted Government’s War against the sovereign Authority of the United States.
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• Frank95054 says:
  July 23, 2012 at 6:05 pm
  Nicely stated. Perhaps we should prepare a million Citizen march to take our Republic back. Any idea how we get a million or so armed citizens to converge on DC? I’m all in!
  
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• DavidMac says:
  July 23, 2012 at 7:00 pm
  You may be “all in” but if you showed up in D.C. with a gun, you’d be arrested. I really don’t think you’d do that. I think you’re all show and no go. It’s easy to be brave on the internet.
  
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• kibitzer2 says:
  July 23, 2012 at 7:07 pm
  I agree with your take on AZ-like’s statement, Frank. And in reply, see my response @ 6:41pm under Doug’s comment above.
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  The key is the willingness of the Oathkeepers, current and retired, to walk point on this march, and with the several militias having their back, and The People having theirs. The People need someone – some specific body of souls – to rally ’round, and set this thing off. The Oathkeeprs are the most likely candidates.
•  And I am right with you all. 
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  I want my country back, from the usurpers, who are trying to hijack it from its highest vision, of ‘a shining city on a hill’. For all mankind to rally ’round: government of The People. NOT their erstwhile overseers.
  
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...and this, from an earlier article (20 July) on Western Journalism - entitled 'Columnist Goes Ballistic Over Arpaio Investigation' - conveying the same sentiment, only going into it in a little more detail:

kibitzer2 says:                     

July 21, 2012 at 8:31 pm

Daniel,

Thank you for this video, and article. But be aware that you have jumped to a conclusion: Just because the BC is, as it very well appears to be, a forgery, does not mean that Obama is a “foreigner”. He could very well turn out to BE, after all, a ‘natural born Citizen’; if his real father was the ‘Frank’ of his (or his and Ayers’s) autobio – i.e., Frank Marshall Davis, as a recent book makes a good case for (‘Dreams from My Real Father’, by Joel Gilbert). Or even if he is the son of Malcolm X, as a blogger has made a case for. Either way, the point is that the BC released to the public is, then, without a doubt, a forgery; and under the circumstances, it is a felony. And it is even that alone that strips the man called Obama of any legitimacy for being in that office. So he needs to be impeached right there – as an example, if nothing else, that the American people will still hold faith with the rule of law.

If he were indeed the son of the Kenyan brought into this murky picture – as he claims – he is, of course, ineligible for that particular office right there, and is, then, already an ‘illegal’ – a usurper in the office; and needs to go/be pressured to go from that fact alone. So he is a criminal either way – which he has brought upon himself. With, obviously, the help of shadowy others; who also need to be brought to justice.

As for some less ‘shadowy others’: the Congress is proving itself to be an accessory both to and after the fact of this crime. So Sheriff Arpaio is in error to think to turn this matter over either to them, or to the Department of Justice – itself an accessory to this crime. All three branches of the federal government are involved in this crime, of major, constitutional proportions. So the answer to the conundrum is clear: there needs to be a march on Washington of The People, Assembled – led by Oathkeepers, both retired and current, and right behind them the militias of the several States, and right behind them such citizens as Second Amendmenters and Tenth Amendmenters and Article Twoers and Tea Partiers and yes, those of the Occupy Movement who realize the danger of having a person in the presidential office who is assuming dictatorial powers & don’t want the country turned into an empire; and all others of the citizenry who are mad as hell and aren’t going to take it anymore – to stay there, in organized relays, and in nonviolent civil disobedience, until the Usurper vacates the office; also dissolving the Congress – as its employers – for its complicity in this crime, and appointing an Officer OF The People, who will call for elections within a time certain (say, 90 to 120 days), and in the meantime, clean out the Augean stables of the executive branch of government of all those appointees who don’t pass the smell test (as in corruption); the Supreme Court and lesser courts being bypassed in all this, for not having allowed The People their day in court in this matter. Justice denied being injustice.

Those Congresspersons who can prove, in a cleansed court of law, that they were not guilty of any crime in this matter – either by commission or omission – can, of course, stand for re-election in those elections. If such there need be. For what this is all a signal of, as well as of the depth of corruption that the nation’s politics has sunk to, is the end of ‘business as usual’ – as well in the ‘business’/banking sector itself, with all the information coming out about how corrupt THAT sector of society has become. And therefore, it is time for a systemic change. And now, for the planet as a whole.

For that is where we have come to. The end of the current road. And the beginning of another, higher one.

Some have called it the New Age. Some, The Great Turning. Some, the Golden Age. By whatever name, it will smell as sweet. The end of corruption. And the beginning of an Ascension process; to a higher level of civilization than any heretofore, on lovely old, beleaguered old, planet Earth.

For our having learned our lessons, well.

And the sooner, the better.

This lovely planet – and the people on it – asking of us, now, our best.

No longer our worst.

Been there. Done that. It’s time for a change, all right.

Just REAL change, this time.

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