Actions, Having Consequences...

from conservative byte.com: 'Supreme Court to admit Obama broke law' - Dec. 3 (orig. posted at wnd.com) 

(As to the title, and gist of the article: Maybe.  Or maybe not.  And most likely: not.)

Centurian2010 • 2 days ago  [i.e. Dec. 3]

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Congress needs to impeach obama, but they are all cowards and corrupt.

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  Breezeyguy Centurian2010 • 2 days ago
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  The house could bring impeachment, but the senate won't convict him. Even if the Repubs take the senate next year, it takes a two-thirds majority to convict. 
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  Art 1 Sec 3 of the constitution: "The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. ... When the
  President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall
  preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two
  thirds of the Members present."
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  But yes, too many corrupt senators don't care about the truth or justice. They didn't go for truth against Clinton and they won't go against Obama, certainly never 67% of them.
  
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  kibitzer3 Breezeyguy • 2 days ago
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  But it can accomplish a major good, as a teachable moment, Breezyguy; with all the facts laid out for everyone to see, and dared to be denied.
  
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(the next day; in response to mine)

Breezeyguy kibitzer3 • a day ago [i.e., Dec. 4]

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I would love that, and if it could succeed would go full steam ahead, but I disagree. Impeachment proceedings would just bring out cries of "racists!", and make him the victim, and would distract from the catastrophe that his administration and obamacare are. He really wants distractions right now.

And the teaching moment would come when the Senate refuses to convict and the media cries out "republicans are failures".

And the facts won't get laid out for everyone to see. The witnesses would lie, and the media would circle the wagons. The exception to that being right now, in the obamacare debacle. Let the people and the media see just what a lying prick this SOB has been, and how they've been suckered and have enabled him. Don't distract everybody with (a doomed) impeachment circus.

Anyway, good people can disagree about this. But just becasue the house doesn't pursue impeachment proceedings doe not mean they are all corrupt.

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  kibitzer3 Breezeyguy • a few seconds ago  [Dec. 5]
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  Valid points, all.  A couple of comments.
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  1) I actually don't believe in going - trying to go - the Impeachment route myself, but for different reasons. a) He isn't a legitimate president (I won't go into the 'natural born citizen' 'debate' here; suffice it to say that the case for his ineligibility on that count is a solid one), and that would give him a veneer of legitimacy, i.e., you can't impeach a non-president; and b) That route doesn't allow us American constitutional Republic patriots the opportunity to toss out all the legislation that the Usurper has signed into law, and all the Executive Actions and Presidential Directives, etc. that he has issued, and all the appointments that he has made.
       Thus, the best way to go is for him simply to be removed - legally - on criminal charges (along with his very provably criminal buddies, like Holder), and be held for trial. But I mentioned the 'case' that I did, i.e. for impeachment proceedings, in order to indicate the need for all the info about him to come out, not just to consider the difficulty of the matter of removal and simply let him finish his term in office out. Which brings me to my next two points (and then I'm done).
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  2) We may not get the chance to SEE him FINISH his term out. Q: What sort of regime would consider patriots and veterans as potential 'terrorists', and build up a huge ammo stockpile and order a large no. of MRAPs for domestic use and send up a large no. of drones to keep an eye on the populace at large, and engage in the sort of Total Surveillance that it has instituted via such as the NSA (& now the IRS under ObamaCare)??  A: A regime bent on takeover. To say: On overthrow. On hijack. Not just on the 'political process' to be seen through.
       We're up against revolutionaries. Not two-party-system political opponents. So, action is required before then. And unless the American public oversees a major cleanup of the voting process, of all the disgusting fraud that has been built into it (that the AG is making sure DOESN'T get cleaned up, with such clean-up procedures as (state-issued) photo voter IDs), it ain't gonna happen via the 2014 elections.
       Such removal action risks response from the Obama legions, whether triggered by impeachment proceedings or other means. But we can't let that deter us. Because
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  3) The bottom line is that Truth is Truth. And it needs to come out, and be stood for. Whatever it takes.
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  Whatever it takes.
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• i.e.: Regardless of the consequences.  For, the consequences of standing for Truth can ultimately only be Good.  
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