Sunday, 25 January 2015

"The Law Is...

…What We Say It Is"


from wnd.com: 'Obama's Legacy? Constitutional Eligibility' - Bob Unruh - Jan. 24
("Supreme Court again faced with unresolved questions over current administration")

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When are conservatives going to wake up to the fact that they are either being conned or misled even by people on their own side of the political divide on this issue? Obama's status as being ineligible for the office on the "natural born citizen" legal point has somewhat to do with the copy - forgery or not - of a birth certificate on the official White House web site. But it has everything to do with his parents.
Contrary to some obfuscators on this issue, this is not rocket science. The whole POINT of the 'exercise' on the part of the constitutional Framers in putting that particular eligibility requirement in their national contract for that particular office - and that particular office ONLY - was to make sure that a candidate, if elected - who would then as well become the Commander in Chief of the nation's military forces - would have no DUAL/CONFLICTING LOYALTIES OR ALLEGIANCES. Like a naturalized citizen. And like a DUAL citizen. Like - lo and behold - Obama.
The evidences of their thinking on the matter abound. There is a letter by John Jay - who subsequently became the first Chief Justice of the new U.S. Supreme Court, of all ironies - to G. Washington, in his role as Chair of the Constitutional Convention, on this issue. There is the fact that at the Convention, Alexander Hamilton proposed that the eligibility requirement for that office be only that the person need be a, quote, "citizen" - and his proposal was specifically TURNED DOWN, in favor of the more stringent requirement. NO FOREIGN INFLUENCES in that office. End of story.
The Constitution can be amended on the issue. It has not been. Thus, Obama is a Usurper in the office - who unfortunately has also been allowed to occupy it because of the inaction of the 'opposition party' in our two-party system of government.  Why has the Republican Party gone along with this charade, this farce, this fraud on the Constitution and the rule of law?? Obviously, for their own purposes: to allow them as well to slip someone into that office who is not constitutionally eligible. Thus, the Republican Party officials need to be taken to (a legitimate) court as well, on RICO-Statute charges of colluding with their Democrat Party cohorts in this deceitful and meretricious matter.
Result: Obama is simply removed from the office (or resigns under his own speed), and charged with a shopping list of felonies; the two major political parties in America are dissolved, for being corrupt enterprises; the Congress itself is dissolved, by act of The People, Assembled, for failing to do its constitutional duty in reining in a rogue Executive. And America is saved from moving out of a Republic stage of development into either an Empire mode - in a replay of the Roman experience; lesson learners please take note - or is absorbed into being merely a part of a region (already called the North American Union; and thus the reason for the failure of TPTB and their minions in Congress to secure our southern border) of the 'New World Order' that is the intention of the Party bigwigs on both sides of the political aisle, and their masters at the top of the pyramid of power of individuals who currently run this world.
And whose rule is about to come to an abrupt end. As the likes of the American People rise to the occasion, and do their duty, to God and country.

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Shotgun_Joe 2 hours ago (Jan. 24)

GWBush should be indicted for treason for allowing the 2008 presidential election to proceed.

Neither ZeroBama nor McShame were eligible for POTUS.

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  • Robert Shotgun_Joe 2 hours ago 

  • GW Bush isn't my favorite guy, but how can you call for him to be charged for treason for an election cycle? It isn't the Presidents responsibility to vet them? Bush was dealing with not only the terror problem we had, but the housing bubble collapse and failing banks and losing jobs at an incredible rate. Economy was tanking fast and either you just hate Bush or your judgement is impaired. At least we didn't have another terror attack, or have a government full of comme muslimes demanding to be of privledge status. Give old George a little credit where it is he. He loved our country and our military. And the military had respect for him also. He wasn't perfect, but compared to Zero, hes got him beat hands down.

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         Robert Shotgun_Joe 2 hours ago
         
         McCain was. His parents were both US citizens when he was born. And he was born on a       US military base in Panama which IS US Property. 
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    • kibitzer3
      Robert a few seconds ago (Jan. 24)

    • Yes to the issue of his parents, a question regarding where he was born. There is some word out that he was born in the city hospital, not on the US military base proper. However, a case could be made that his parents were on official duty of the US government at the time. So it is a point, but a moot one at this point.

    • There is no question about Obama's ineligibility, as I have summarized elsewhere in this thread. Although actually, there is: He may well not have been the child of either of his nominated parents. But if he lied about all that, he is toast anyway.
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Mr.X 24 minutes ago (Jan. 24)

"Should he who was elected to the presidency be determined to be ineligible," The Constitution itself specifies what happens: The VP-elect becomes President. -- 20Th Amendment, Section 3. There is NO impeachment nor trial. The INELIGIBLE President-elect is simply BYPASSED and left as a NULLITY. This is a federal operation not the responsibility of the States.

All that is required is that an investigation find Obama ineligible, and then he is simply arrested for election fraud (and usurptation), etc. Congress need not act, nor is their action required.

Joseph Biden was elected the 44th President in 2008 and reelected in 2012. Note that this makes him ineligible to run in 2016. Also, since he signed NO BILLS and there were no veto overrides by Congress, we have had no new federal laws since January 19, 2009. Everything since is unconstitutional.

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  • kibitzer3
    Mr.X a few seconds ago (Jan. 24) 

  • And since the Democrat Party illegally signed off on Obama's eligibility to run for the office, it qualifies as a corrupt organization, under RICO Statutes, and is dissolved; and all actions that it took from that point are tainted with that illegality, and are rendered null and void. Thus, Biden is not a legal officeholder either, and needs to vacate his office as well. And since it will be easy to prove, in and to a legal court - think under Common Law - that the Republican Party officials were involved in colluding with their Democrat Party counterparts in this illegal operation, they go down as well. Which means that the '08 and '12 elections themselves are rendered null and void. And we start fresh, back under the rule of law in this country.

  • It is truly a constitutional crisis. But one we can weather. If we stick to Truth, as our guiding star.

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Someone on this thread referred to something that Nancy Pelosi said, about the Constitution, some time ago; something to the effect that "What does the Constitution have to do with the laws we pass.  No one in Congress has considered the Constitution in years."  So: 'We don't go by the Constitution around here.  We haven't done that for some time.'  I don't know what her precise words were, in that moment.  But it would make sense, in the light of her, as Chair of the Democrat Nominating Convention in 2008, simply writing a letter unilaterally declaring Obama to be "constitutionally eligible" for the office, to the Hawaii officials, who wanted  to be covered in case the subject came up in the future.  That phrase was not included in the nominating letters from her to the other state Secretaries of State.  To Pelosi, obviously, the Constitution is simply that "damn piece of paper" that Dubya Bush referred to once, during his administration; which, in many ways including this one, set up the lawlessness of the two Obama administrations.      

So it isn't just Nancy "We have to pass the bill to find out what's in it" Pelosi who needs to spend some time in jail for her illegal act; which has caused so much mayhem to ensue from it.

But spend some time in prison, she must.  For playing so fast and loose - not to mention arrogant - with the law of the land.

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