from conservativetribune.com: ‘WOW: Oklahoma Makes Massive Move to Strip ALL Power From Barack Obama’ - Ben Marquis - May 16 (orig. posted at gopthedailydose.com - Clyde - May 15)
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Obama should never have been sworn in as president to start with. The Constitution requires that the president must be a "natural born citizen". Back in the 1950's, when I was in school, we were taught in Civics, that a natural born citizen was someone born on U.S. soil to a citizen father and a citizen mother, so that there was no possibility of any other country claiming that child as a citizen or demanding loyalty from him or her. Undivided loyalty to the U.S. Even if Barack had been born in the White House, his Kenyan, British subject father was not a citizen, and Barack was born a "citizen" but one with dual citizenship and NOT a "natural born citizen". He is NOT now and has never been eligible to be president. Unfortunately for Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, the same holds true for them. Cruz's birth in Canada and non-citizen father, and Rubio's birth in Miami to parents who didn't become citizens until Marco was 4 years old, means they too, are ineligible. As a lifelong conservative Republican, the Constitution is more important to me than any political party or any candidate's political ambition. Abide by it, or we will lose it. We cannot make exceptions for those we like, because that will lead to more "Barack Obama's" in the future. Beware of unintended consequences.
You are right but nobody has any guts anymore. So what has happened? He's almost ruined our country!
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David Barefield you are %100 right, and Hussien Obama said "Change yes we can", and he's kept his word by trying to rewrite our beloved Constitution to suit his ISIS idealogy and give everything to the Muslims while taking everything away from us.
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I can't stand Obama but the constitution says "No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States". Although I am not sure he would qualify because his mother was born in Hawaii and Hawaii was not a state when she was born. Also by your reason, Ted Cruz would not qualify to be president either.
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Well spoken, Sandra. The historical reference which there is considerable specific evidence that the constitutional Framers were going by when they put that NBC eligibility requirement in their contract for that particular office (for the particular reason that you mentioned): E. de Vattel's definitive tome of the day on those sorts of subjects, 'The Law of Nations, Or Principles of Natural Law,' Book One, Ch. XIX, Sect. 212. Look it up, if you have any doubts about this issue, dear Reader. And get to know your Constitution better. If 'you' had known it better, we would never have been in the trouble that we are in today, with an illegal occupier of the Oval Office riding roughshod over the nation - this federal constitutional Republic, in form, if no longer in fact.
But then, maybe that's what it has been all about: to learn such lessons. Sometimes, the hard way, in life. But this has been a particularly hard one. Too bad there wasn't a better way to learn this one.
Luann Sager Melton: You need to keep reading that sentence. It goes on to say: "...at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution..." It was a grandfather clause, to cover those living at the time, before the advent of the new nation. It is not enough simply to be a "citizen" to run for and occupy that particular office. One needs to have been born in the country (or its equivalent) of parents who were its citizens at the time. (That's what makes it 'natural'.)
But you are right in that Cruz does not qualify for the office either. Nor for the office of VP, ever since the 12th Amendment included that office in the same NBC eligibility requirement. Logically enough, since that person might ascend [I should have used the word ‘accede’] to the presidency during his/her term in office.
We really should have gotten to know our own country's 'law of the land' better. Yes, a lot of the blame lands at the feet of our educators (who have become Marxist ideologues). But ultimately, we need to take responsibility for our own actions in life. Hey - that's what life has been all ABOUT, for heaven's sake.
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from patriosforamerica.ning.com: ‘Commentary…….”Such A Time As This” - Harry Riley, Col., USA, Ret.
(“"We the people" would do well by standing firm in our support of the US Constitution and trust Donald Trump, warts and all, as the man for "such a time as this”.”
Some Vietnam Vets got to talking amongst themselves, on the Comments thread, about their service to this country in Nam, and what was going on politically at the time. I felt privileged to listen in on their sharing.)
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Permalink Reply by John J. Little Eagle Freeman on Sunday (May 15)
FACT VS FICTION.....THE VIETNAM VETERAN
Your statements are wrong. Let's look at the facts, starting with who actually served in Vietnam.
Draftees vs. Volunteers:
During the Vietnam War, only 25% (648,500) of total forces in country were draftees While 66% of U.S. armed forces members were drafted during WWII.
82% of veterans who saw heavy combat strongly believe the war was lost because of lack of political will. Actual fact is that politicians caved in to political activists protesting the war, those who knew the least about it.
97% of Vietnam-era veterans were honorably discharged.
91% of actual Vietnam War veterans and 90% of those who saw heavy combat are proud to have served their country.
66% of Vietnam vets say they would serve again if called upon. Count me among them.
John J. Little Eagle Freeman
SSgt. USMC
1st Bn., 9th Marines - Di Bo Chet ("The Walking Dead")
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Permalink Reply by Debrajoe Beatty on Sunday
Thank you John. I honor you.
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Lee,
I joined in 1974 "I was not drafted" with every intention of going to Vietnam, 101ST Airborne. At 19 I didn't follow the political scuttle-butt in America. Just 2 weeks before I finished my Basic Nixon decided we had done enough, so I ended up in Panama instead of Vietnam. So that puts me in a very select 10% of Veterans.
I don't know how old you are Lee, but at 19 did you really get involved with politics and such? I hail from a small town in the Appalachian Mountains of Virginia and Washington DC politics wasn't really our bag back then, we dug coal. A lot has changed since then.
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Tim,
You are about three years older than me. 90% of the men 18 and above in my area that went to Vietnam were drafted. I have been involved in politics since the age of 16, about the time you joined, and my father and uncle were involved in WW2. My father was not allowed to join due to his skills as a pattern maker but my uncle joined and spent time as a Sea Bee in the South Pacific and saw extensive combat while clearing land for landing fields. Both of them knew Vietnam was, well as my uncle put it, "A bullshit politic affair." Had we gone there to prevent the spread of Communism we could have and should have won. It was the beginning of many "bullshit politic affairs" for the whims of the NWO, nothing more. Thanks to the voices of regular American people did Nixon choose to cut and run, a terrible blot on the American government but it WAS the Global Elite that put us in this war that cost the lives of over 50,000 fine Americans in a "bullshit politic affair."
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Good morning Lee,
I agree that Vietnam was "A bullshit politic affair", but at the time I enlisted I didn't know that, and my guess is most Vietnam era Veterans didn't either at the time of their induction. In my older age I have became a lot more involved with politics, and daily attempt to discover the truth both past and present. My Father was an artillery gunner in WWII, my Uncle stormed the beach at Normandy. I also agree that most "if not all" military campaigns since Vietnam have been political. What I'm getting at is the US Soldier had no reason to mistrust the gov't until the last 50 years or so. To serve in the military and promise to protect the US and everything it stood for was an honor, and honor that stays with Veterans until their death. The Veterans I know can see what's happening across the Nation, they realize that the US gov't is corrupt and only using the military for their personal agendas and gains, but it wasn't always that way. The Vietnam Veterans still get the blame for a political war they fought, yet the majority of them did not know. The majority felt they were fighting a war against communism that was being forced upon a peaceful people.
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50 years ago was 1966, the height of the conflict in Vietnam and by then most Americans realized what was going on there, but some still believed our government could be trusted. The Vietnam veterans did what they were ordered to do and for the life of me I cannot understand why they should get the blame for the "political war they fought". Every Vietnam veteran I know fought honorably and should be proud they gave their best in serving as they were asked to do. Our nation today is on the verge of collapse and civil war, the two major parties have sold us out and violated every aspect of our Constitution. I fear it is only going to get worse as we head into the election in November and I fear Obama has many more illegal shenanigans up his sleeve; cancelling elections and declaring martial law. We the people, like it or not, will most likely be left to fend for ourselves as tyranny finally puts the final nails in the coffin of our once great Republic.
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Permalink Reply by Stan Stanfield 1 second ago (May 17)
You, Tim, Michael, and John J. Little Freeman did honorably. Well done, all who have served this nation.
It is a travesty that the nation's leadership has betrayed you. But the federal constitutional republic of the United States of America still stands.
It may need your services again. In whatever form that may take. To repel all alien borders. Including those infesting the highest offices in the land.
Stay strong. We still need you. For your reminder, if nothing else, of a better day.
In the past. And yet to come. With such a sense of loyalty to an honorable cause.
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This, at the same time as it is being reported that Obama has ordered that (some; for a start) Vets are "mentally defective" and so can't have guns.
Uh huh. Riiiiight...
The excuse (as part of his gun-grabbing scheme) is that those Vets who have been assigned a fiduciary to help them manage their benefits are "mentally defective;" have been placed under an "adjudication of mental defectiveness" under federal - to say, Obama arbitrary - law.
The real reason?
Vets have taken an oath to defend the Constitution; "against all enemies, foreign and domestic".
Count me among them.
I would be, and feel, honored to be.
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- Stan..Many here have served taken up arms to serve our nation. And I would say that for us it mattered not what the politians were doing or how they hindered us from accomplishing our mission. We served for the greater good. Seeing others denyed their freedoms, having their land taken and their freedoms taken from them. We all went to help free the oppressed and to support our Brothers-In-Arms.
To a man we would do it again even knowing the treachery of our leaders because it is the right thing to do. Where ever people are being oppressed count us in. And now our very citizens are being oppressed.... So, You can count is in....
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- Indeed: the oath.I just know one thing. I would never have put you guys into a no-win war situation. If we were in it, we would have been in it to win it. Not make some s.o.b.'s a lot of money. And serve a duplicitous political purpose, of global takeover, by totalitarians, in and for their malevolent New World Order. Still trying to do their thing, in this more enlightened day and age, thanks in large part to the Internet. As in this Comments thread.Where I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to listen in on you guys's sharing. I salute you, one and all.
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