Friday 27 February 2015

What's the 'Real' Truth?


from 2012: What's the 'real' truth?: 'California Infant Dies after 8 Vaccines, Family Gets Him Back from Hospital Cremated' - Feb. 27 (orig. posted at Before It's News/Vactruth.com - Augustina Ursino - Feb. 27) 

kibitzer3 says:
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“The coroner said it wasn’t my fault and sometimes this just happens.” ‘Sometimes this just happens’ when
a) the baby’s vitamin C stores are used up from the stress of the shots and their heart just stops; as happened in the old days when sailors had been away a long time at sea with improper rations and their hearts would give out on them just like that, from scurvy; the syndrome dealt with by adding foods with vitamin C to their rations, thus British sailors picking up the moniker ‘limey'; and/or
b) the baby’s mattress is outgassing toxic fumes; esp. for the additional children in the family, using the same mattress, from the breaking-down of its ingredients from such as urine.
For whatever reason: ‘Sometimes this just happens’ when something makes it happen. That needs to be investigated thoroughly. And dealt with, thoroughly.
Grrrrrrr……………………..

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(for a little more detail, posted at vactruth.com - Feb. 27)
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"The coroner said it wasn't my fault and sometimes this just happens." 'Sometimes this just happens' when
a) the baby's vitamin C stores are used up from the stress of the shots and their heart just stops; as happened in the old days when sailors had been away a long time at sea with improper rations and their hearts would give out on them just like that, from scurvy; the syndrome ultimately dealt with by adding foods with vitamin C to their rations (thus British sailors picking up the moniker 'limeys'); and/or
b) the baby's mattress is outgassing toxic fumes; esp. for the additional children in the family, using the same mattress, from the breaking-down of its toxic ingredients from such as urine.
'Sometimes this just happens' when something MAKES it happen. Which needs to be investigated thoroughly. And dealt with, thoroughly. In this case, a) not so many shots all at once, AT A MINIMUM (there are other dangers to them as well as SIDS); and b) cover the used mattress with a solid plastic covering, or replace it. (A scientist in New Zealand has investigated this matter thoroughly; google it.) The medical 'authorities' don't want to look into these vaccine-damage matters because a) it would make them appear to be the fools that they have been; b) it would make them susceptible to lawsuits; and c) it would jeopardize their vaunted medical modality of vaccinations. Which modality is in sore need of BEING jeopardized, for all the terrible side-effect damage that it is wreaking, AND NOT BEING ACKNOWLEDGED.
Grrrrrrrr………………..

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(a poster at vactruth.com quoted WHO statistics in trying to frighten the herd into lining up their kids for their measles shots; my response:)

kibitzer3 Beth K a few seconds ago (still Feb. 27)

You have swallowed the Kool-Aid, Beth. a) Morbidity rates for all the childhood diseases were going down before the advent of the vaccines for them. (Better nutrition and cleaner water are the chief components of that picture.)  b) There are natural approaches to the matter that don't have the damnable side effects to them that the vaccines have. Vitamin A for measles, for one. And that way, the child has the chance to have its immune system developed properly, with life-long immunity (which the vaccines don't give; and thus a vaccinated female can't pass on her antibodies to her child, thus exposing the infant to infections that it shouldn't have to deal with 'naked' at that tender age), with the natural treatment alleviating the worst-case scenario. But allopathic doctors are so brainwashed in their training that they don't realize all this. More's the pity.

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Vaccines.  A long, appalling story.  Which I actually got into briefly with my 'interlocutor' at the park yesterday.  (The documentarian interview itself was more into 'the God thing'; and to be continued next Tuesday.  A promising start.)  When she arrived she asked me what I was reading, which happened to be an article in the current issue of NEXUS Magazine on one example of their dangers.  ('Vaccines As An Autism Trigger: A TB Link?' by Lawrence Broxmeyer, MD.)  She asked me what I thought of vaccines, and I told her, briefly: that they were bad news.  She played the polio vaccine card, how it had saved so many lives.  I told her about the lives that it had ruined, from being contaminated with SV-40 - Simian Virus 40 (from the monkey kidney cells that the polio virus had been cultured on).  Big mistake.  BIG mistake.  (And then there's the vaccine-modality use for other, nefarious purposes, such as the deliberate spread of the HIV.  And now, in our day; nanoparticles.  But to continue.)  But then she made a point, and a very personal one, for her: She is immune-suppressed, from having had a kidney transplant, and people like her just can't be around kids or people with communicable diseases.  Point taken.

The cause of her condition?  Genetic.  (A couple of identified genes.)  But good for her: she believes that such conditions can be dealt with, changed.  We didn't go into that subject in any great depth.  But it's a subject that needs to be dealt with.  A) What is causing such genetic disorders; and B) How can we change them once they have taken place.  

I have hope.  The same as I told her that I have hope that we will clean up our corrupted 'medical' scene once money is taken out of the equation.  She asked how do you do that; that 'money' just is; that we'll always have that issue.  No, we don't have to, I said.  Said that it is possible to live without money.  That it is all a matter of 'motive'.  

To be continued, next time.  I'm not sure what she thought of that ball that I threw into play.  But it is a natural progression from where we left off.  Somewhere just beyond the 'If there is a God, however, then certain things follow' mark.  I mentioned the 'Plan in and Purpose to the universe' factor, given a 'God' - i.e., a/the larger reality of which this is but a part.  But I didn't get into the ballpark of:

'Given all the proofs of a larger reality that are now available to us in our time, from such as Near Death Experiences, we can, and need to, start living as if there were a God, and not as if there were not, as we are largely doing at present.'  

It could make for an interesting session.    

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P.S. A reply to my posting above, and my response:




And it was delicious! I believe the to immunize or not to immunize debate has become almost as heated as pro-choice and pro-life debates. It's all about education and parents doing what they believe it right for their children. Right or wrong can be argued all day, in the end, if an educated decision is reached, a parent should not feel guilty for a decision made either way. My 9 year old was given all recommended vaccines, and he's never been on an antibiotic in his life. His immune system is working just fine, and he's a perfectly healthy child.


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      A very fair response, Beth. And I agree totally: It's all about education. Let all the facts be out there. ALL the facts. And letting the parents do "what they believe is right for their children," from an educated position. Not to be treated like an insignificant player in the matter in the eyes of the all-powerful and omniscient state.
      P.S. I'm happy for your son. :-)

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