Wednesday, 6 April 2016

And Furthermore...

1) further from ‘Homeschoolers Beware: Ted Cruz Just Co-Sponsored This Weird Bill’ - a month ago

         kibitzer3 Peter Smith a month ago 
  • Thank you for your background info. I hear that you are a legitimate pusher of the Cruz position. So I will respond to you in a nicer way.

  • The Naturalization Act of 1790 was canceled and replaced by the Naturalization Act of 1795 - and for just this reason, i.e., that the wording about a 'natural born' citizen in the 1790 Act was realized to have been a mistake, and so was corrected, with Madison and Washington part of that correcting team. Atty Mario Apuzzo at his site puzo1dotblogstpotdotcom has the whole story; plus excellent commentaries on this whole issue.

  • The bottom line is that the Book One, Ch. XIX, Sect. 212 definition of a 'natural born' citizen in de Vattel's definitive tome is still the definitive one, as used by the constitutional Framers, and so is the eligibility requirement for that office to this day, for there never having been a constitutional amendment to the contrary, as yet.

  • Some supporters of Cruz - and Obama - have tried to argue that there were only two types of citizens at the time, naturalized or natural born. Not so; as made clear by the 'inconvenient' fact (for them) that Alexander Hamilton, as a delegate to the Constitutional Convention proceedings, made a proposal that the president need only be, quote, "born a Citizen" - and his proposal was SPECIFICALLY TURNED DOWN, in favor of the more stringent 'natural born' category. No. The facts are clear on this matter: 1) Obama is a Usurper (and needs to be dealt with as such); and b) Two wrongs don't make a right. Or the Constitution is a dead letter. And we are into a terrible state of affairs: from being under the rule of law in this country to being under the rule of men. Which is - as I indicated in my original posting: tyranny. Which I for one will not have any of.

  • I can sympathize with your wishes for Cruz to advance. He has done some good work in the Senate. But he is not eligible for the job. And no amount of special pleading, or sophistic argument, will change that. And I hope you come to understand that. Because otherwise, you become a tool for some very evil people by which to accomplish their dark ends.

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                      Peter Smith kibitzer3 a month ago 
    • The Naturalization Act of 1790 vs. 1795 only changed the verbage of children born on foreign soil from NBC (1790) to "citizen" (1795). That would mean the child was a "citizen at birth by blood". They did not require any type of "naturalization" to be a citizen. The legal term "Jus sanguinis" would apply, i.e., the child is a NBC. I'm not a lawyer, just my interpretation. We'll have to wait and see ......
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  • Martha Cortez kibitzer3 6 hours ago (April 5)

  • He is a natural US born citizen. Choose the reference you wish.

  • Supreme Court ruling on natural-born us citizen



  • On the Meaning of Natural Born Citizen

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    • kibitzer3 Martha Cortez a few seconds ago (April 5)

    • 'The reference I wish,' Martha, is the historical evidence that the NBC term at the time of its codification in the Constitution was the definition of such as taught in the universities of the day, from de Vattel's 'The Law of Nations, Or Principles of Natural Law': "...the natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens...those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers..." And there having been no constitutional amendment to the contrary of that eligibility requirement for the office of the presidency, that eligibility requirement for that particular office STILL STANDS.

    • I should care what the likes of the Harvard Law Review has to say on the subject? They are special pleaders for their (tainted) cause. Stick with your references if you wish. No one has researched this matter to the depths that Attorney Mario Apuzzo has, and has posted on his blog site, puzo1dotblogspotdotcom. I rest my case with the truth of the matter. And that truth is that neither Obama nor Cruz are eligible for that office. PERIOD.

2) from ‘Limbaugh: Trump Campaign Has “Gone Off The Rails”’ - Joe Kovacs - April 6
(“In the wake of Donald Trump’s lackluster showing Tuesday in the Wisconsin Republican Primary, radio host Rush Limbaugh says the businessman’s campaign has ‘gone off the rails’…” - of which there is no actual proof; and some early polls indicating a complete reversal, by the time the results were being reported…)

kibitzer3 a minute ago (April 6)

When are the American people going to wake up and realize that we can no longer allow TPTB to run our elections, with their easily-hackable electronic voting machines? It has been demonstrated that the electronic pulses can be made to go to a cutout site first, where the figures are manipulated, and then sent on to their 'normal' receiving station. What dunces we are proving to be.

It has already been pointed out that it doesn't matter who votes; what matters is who counts the votes. Wake up, America. You are being had. 'Election Integrity Or No Elections' should be the call - loud and clear. Anything less is a mockery, a charade.


The fuse grows shorter.........


further to the immediate above:

  • We know this kid. How do we stop it?
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              kibitzer3 SherriDee Davis a few seconds ago (April 6) 
    • (Hold on, this is waiting to be approved by WND. )

      You don't really want to know my advice. It involves shaming our Oath Keepers into doing their job and arresting the Usurper in the Oval Office and holding him for trial (on a whole host of charges by now, including fraud, perjury, and treason); arresting Hillary on a whole host of her own charges (particularly including the use of her personal unsecured email system for official & confidential business when she was SoS, and the accepting of bribes from foreign governments paid into her and Bill's Clinton Foundation personal slush fund); arresting the authorities of both the Democrat and Republican Parties on RICO-statute charges of being criminal enterprises for engaging in the attempted overthrow of the Constitution on the ineligibility question regarding both the Usurper and Cruz (the evidence is right in the historical record, as to the original intent of the constitutional Framers in requiring the occupant of the presidency to be a person born in the country of citizen parents, not just a 'citizen'); and canceling elections until all this is cleared up - including cleaning up the voting systems in each state, at the least involving federal elections, so that the registration rolls have to pass an in-depth (& independent) certification process, and electronic voting machines are dumped, in favor of going back to a (bona fide) paper trail. And dipping each voter's finger in purple ink if we have to, to take our country back from the erstwhile hijackers that it has been submitting to FOR LONG ENOUGH.

    • As I say: You don't really want to know. Because it requires us to get off our asses and TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK. Starting with - as I say - shaming our Oath Keepers, current and retired, into DOING THEIR DAMN JOB. And cleaning out Washington, D.C. of all its corrupt cockroaches. And that involves dissolving the sitting Congress as well, for not doing its constitutional duty in regards to a rogue Executive.

    • Nobody promised us a rose garden. Just sayin'.

...and shorter......

...and having said all the above, at the end of the day I echo Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, when he commented:

"To render us again one people acting as one nation should be the object of every man really a patriot."

That was the penultimate quote of a video carried this evening by Col. Harry Riley's site 'Constitutional Emergency,' made by a Swede, titled 'Springtime For The Revolution (OAS Operation May 2014),' a fine tribute of a record of that event in Washington, D.C., when patriots showed up (few in numbers, large in spirit) to do their duty.  The ultimate quote was, fittingly, from George Washington:

"There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily."

Keeping it on course, George.  Keeping it on course.

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