Monday, 8 October 2012

More On You-Know-Who

[This is from a blog entitled 'A Quickening Going On; Get On the Train that is Coming' - at '2012: What's the 'Real' Truth?' - 6 Oct.)

Anon says:
There is a common quotation, which perhaps has some relevance here:
“Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies even closer.”
I have no fixed opinion on Obama, I really don’t know what to make of him. I swing back and forth, dependent upon what I’m reading about him. For this reason, I shall sit on the fence, if I may. (I’m not eligible to vote anyway…)
However, there can be no doubt that Romney is dangerous, so for me, it would be a case of ‘better the devil you know, than the devil you don’t know’, if I were pondering over a voting slip!
My point is this: If Obama has been and still is on some kind of razor-edge in order to keep his ‘molecules intact’ and his family safe, perhaps even the planet intact (who knows) – and if he has more to offer on the Light side (who knows) whenever the chance arises, then isn’t he likely to have to do just as that quote states, and keep his ‘enemies’ very much closer than his ‘friends’?
I read an analogy recently, that I feel summed-up exactly what’s happening, globally, at the moment, it went along the lines of, “it’s like a poker game that has not yet finished, so none of the hands have yet been revealed.”.
Lets hope the exact right timing and opportunities do come along which would allow Obama to shine his light, if indeed he has any intention of doing so.
  • kibitzer3 says:
    With all due respect, since you say that you’re not eligible to vote anyway, I am presuming that you do not live in the U.S. A little helpful background to this matter, if I may.
    Essentially: Obama was never eligible to run for the presidency in the first place (it is a bone of contention that has been going and is going on in the b/g as we speak). The Constitution requires that a candidate for the presidency – that alone of all the federal offices (since amended to include the Vice President; logically) – be, quote, “a natural born Citizen”. What does that mean? It means what it meant in the minds of those gathered in the Constitutional Convention who put it in there. It is clear, from reading various bits of reference material, that it means that the person needs to be, at a minimum, born of U.S. citizen parents – plural. (That’s called, in legalese, ‘jus sanguinis’ – born of the blood. There’s also the requirement of being born ‘jus soli’ – of the soil.) It was a game of pretense that this requirement was fudged and overlooked in the lead-up to the ’08 elections – from both sides of the political aisle in the U.S. The presumption is that the Republican Party had, and have, their own reasons for wanting that requirement watered down. (In fact, both political parties were involved in a number of tries leading up to the ’08 elections to get a constitutional amendment going through Congress on this very issue. All never made it out of committee.)
    You, not being an American citizen (apparently), may not understand why this is such a big deal to a lot of Americans. But I’m sure you can understand the concept of living by the rule of law. If a people don’t live by the rule of law, they are subject to the rule of men – that is, despotism. (As Hitler said: “I am the law.”) And the Founders of the American Republic were particularly sensitive to that sort of issue, just having come out from under the rule – the arbitrary authority – of the king of Great Britain. And so they should have been. And so should we, in our day and age.
    So, Obama’s eligibility has been in question from the git-go. But since the Republican Party chose to go along with the charade – as I say, for their own purposes – nobody could mount an effective assault on the usurpation. In the American system of jurisprudence, a private citizen does not have ‘standing’ to take this sort of matter to a court of law. The ‘aggrieved body’ would be the Congress; and, as I pointed out, there was collusion going on there. So both the Congress of 2008-2010 & the current sitting Congress are guilty of a conspiracy to defraud the American People; and justice will be served, one day, when this nightmare is over.
    Some citizens say, Come on; it’s water under the bridge; let’s move on. But they aren’t as sensitive to this matter as some of us are – we, who believe passionately in the founding of this nation, as ordained by a Higher Power; with special souls raised up to get it off the ground. ‘It’: government of, by, and for The People – NOT by Royalty or Religion or elite of any kind; and not for special interests. America is a living experiment in self-governance; and as such, has a major role to play in human affairs. And it is not doing a very good job of it, right now, and recently.
    There’s more. But I ask you to consider: Is it really from the highest – from a spiritual context – that a candidate for that office would have slipped through the constitutional requirements – would have been ALLOWED to slip through the constitutional requirements? And kept all of his records sealed, so that the public couldn’t check out just who this man really was, and is?? That sort of thing is not from the Light. It is from the Dark. And I, for one citizen, won’t have it. Nor will a lot of others.
    So this matter is not over yet. This matter, of a major deception pulled on The People of the last, best hope of Earth. Before we leave the drama behind – and all the lessons therein – and move on. Off of the stage of 3D life, and onto another, higher level of reality.
    But having gotten as many lessons out of the 3D stage – the stage of polarity; the play [between] the Light and the Dark – as we could. And given the experience our best shot.
    A ways to go, with that one, yet.
    P.S. Some say that the other candidate is no better. But at least the Constitution is not sullied by his candidacy. The Constitution; and the Founders of this special nation. Who gave their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor, to their dream.
    We should be willing to do no less. If we would not break faith with the Founders. And with the Source behind their Sacred Undertaking.


    P.S.  And then the thread developed:

    [from the '2012: What's the 'Real' Truth?' blog, in response to my post of 8 Oct - this one of 9 Oct.]

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        • amosouldeer says:
          October 9, 2012 at 3:04 am
          Were we to condone the continuation of reactive, dualistic and ‘exclusive’ polemics, which would assure the continuation of humankind’s imprisonment on a fear-based 3-d polarity plane dear kibitzer3, one woiuld be tempted to zask: “Are these the same “Founders” who were responsable for the disingenuous genocide of the indigenous population ?
          Let us not be dupe to the evident complicity and unicity that underlies the ‘apparent’ difference between Democatic & Republican party politics. It should come as no surprise that both the Bush family & the British Royal family funded Hitler’s WWII effort – ‘they’ (or rather the hidden Elite that put & maintained them in position up until recently) are all in the same team.
          The illusion of ‘democratic’ choice is pure…illusion!
          Drama feeds the illusions of powerlessness, separation and victimhood that are required for duality. All of these issues are mere distractions that are designed to occupy your attention and energy to the detriment of, and preventing you from, assuming and furthering of your genuine empowerment through other means.

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    • Anon says:
      October 9, 2012 at 5:06 am
      “Who gave their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor, to their dream.” – The dream to steal the lands of an idiginous peoples, and determine to deprive them ever since. Some dream!
      However, that being said, let’s remember or learn this, The United States of America is a corporation! When will this fact sink in? A corporation is not a land, nor a nation, nor a people.
      Play with words, fantasies, ideals all you want, but your country remains in the hands of the British monarchy via the USofA Inc. run from its secure haven, aka, Washington D.C. (a private nation state similar to the Vatican and the City of London), where the Laws of the rest of the land have no power. Unless I’m incorrect, of course?

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    • amosouldeer says:
      October 9, 2012 at 5:37 am
      Exactly, Anon!
      ‘Ascension’ involves self-mastery of thought and of Being. It has nothing to do with feelings of anger, blame, judgment or victimhood (which are all issue of ‘lower frequencies’), the pursuit of which can never transform into positive action and the increase in one’s vibratory level that is a prerequisite to acceeding to “another, higher level of reality”.
      And so there’s really no need for us to go on an’ on Anon about it ;o)

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    • Nora says:
      October 9, 2012 at 5:48 am
      The trap is to believe that voting makes a difference. Maybe it did once. Maybe it will again sometime in the near future. At the moment though I feel that whoever gets in will be controlled by the cabal unless and until the cabal is rendered powerless. The electorate is being deceived into thinking that they make a difference. They can make a difference but not in that way. We need to step out of the matrix and not buy into “their” ilusion.
      If as has been stated many times that O has no right to be potus and something is actually done to remove him from office legally, then wouldn’t that make all the executive orders and any other legislation signed off by his administration null and void? If this is the case (and I recognise it is hypothetical) then wouldn’t that be a good thing?

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      • amosouldeer says:
        October 9, 2012 at 5:59 am
        Voting confirms the illusion that you (still have?) choice. At the same time many people admit that it’s more often a case of them voting against and excluding a given candidate or party, rather than ‘for’ someone or some ideal. Is this your idea of democracy ?
        Name one highly placed individual (e.g. President) of (local, national or international) governance that has EVER served the true interests of the population…
        Yes, ‘history’ speaks for itself; but when are YOU going to begin to speak for yourself, people ?

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    • Nora says:
      October 9, 2012 at 6:01 am
      Did the Bushes change their name from Scherf?

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      • Anon says:
        October 9, 2012 at 9:08 am
        I read various sources of information some months ago about the Scherf family and claims that Bush Snr was not born in USA, but in Germany. If true, and it certainly seems likely to be so, then those who wish to argue against Obama’s right to have become president (if he was not born in USA) must also argue against the validity of Bush Snr’s presidency too. Water under the bridge? Maybe, but that doesn’t make it right (if it’s right you really care about). So if folk really want to tar ‘illegitimate’ presidents with the tar brush, they can better go after all who need tarring, or it wouldn’t be just and fair now would it?

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        • Nora says:
          October 9, 2012 at 9:26 am
          There seems to have been a lot of research gone into the Scherf/Bush enigma. Seems the rabbit hole is actually a warren.
          Needs to be a lot of house clearing from way back imo.

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        • kibitzer3 says:
          October 9, 2012 at 4:56 pm
          For the record: the issue of being a NBC or not is not where your parents were born, or necessarily where YOU were born (depending on ‘jus soli’ considerations). It’s whether your parents were U.S. citizens at the time of your birth or not – both of them.

        • But I agree, Anon: Bush Snr’s eligibility is in question, too, for the above-stated reason. So all the more reason that we leave the illusion behind, and ‘go for gold’ – the Golden Age. Just barely out of reach right now; beckoning us on, out of our role-playing, and into inheriting our true natures, as sons and daughters of the One Source. 

        • And I agree with you too, Nora, that there “(n)eeds to be a lot of house clearing from way back” (including the U.S. ‘corporation’ thing, Anon). No, we don’t need to/should not get caught up in it all. But we need to learn as many lessons as we can, from this experience that we have been involved in, before we move on. It’s all a matter of consciousness-raising; on our way to higher realms. To fully learn what can happen, when one loses The Vision. Without which, ‘the people perish’.
        • [As the Good Book says.  Questions regarding which we shouldn't get bogged down in, either.  The Bible has some merit.  Just not a lot historically.  Or regarding spiritual truth.]
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        • …and then this came on line, as a late addition:

        • amosouldeer says:
        • October 9, 2012 at 5:20 pm
        • If you want to raise your consciousness, kibitzer3, you’ll need to seek out and hear your heart, not look into the past or listen to your head (left-brain); Both past and future are created from the present, which contains them both!
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        • kibitzer3 says:
          October 9, 2012 at 6:11 pm

          Ummm – okay.

        • Feels like I ruffled your feathers with the Obama thing. Speaking of which: I trust that you didn’t mean your response as an excuse for the trashing of the Constitution?? 

        • Just to make it clear: I have no ‘favor’ with the Bush admin that preceded the Obama regime, either. Both have been involved with trying to do away with the Constitution, as an impediment – a rock in their shoe – to a totalitarian takeover; Bush (the Bush clan, & the majority of the Cabal) from the Right, and Obama (the Soros & Co.’family’ of criminals) from the Left, both desiring a New World Order, just from their different political perspectives, of either fascism/’corporatism’ or socialism/communism. Which highlights the importance of the Constitution being preserved, at all costs. 

        • At all costs. 

        • And then we move on.
        • Okay? 

        • I believe that all manner of evidence points to the fact that the Bush faction – including the Neocons – were involved in 9/11, e.g. So I have no specific animosity towards Obama the man. Just with what he is doing. And I believe that he can STILL move to the side of the Light. If he sees it.

        • Okay??

        • And as for questioning my ability to listen to my heart…well. I’ll let my response to your good advice go at this.


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