Thursday, 20 October 2016

On Going Out On A Limb

from” ’Shock Report: Clinton Operative Turns On Hillary: The “’Fixer” Is Set To Releaser 24 Years Worth Of Documents, Notes and Journals’ - Mac Slavo - October 19
(The Comments thread started talking about Hillary’s criminality under Title 18, Section 2071) 

Spirit of 1791 Karll 7 hours ago (October 19)

Unfortunately, an indictment would not do it. Only a guilty verdict would stop her before taking office, but after assuming office that would not even remove her from the presidency. The only method of removing a sitting president,is impeachment. She may be in a jail cell but still president. One of those Article V things that should be addressed.


  • kibitzer3
    Spirit of 1791 a few seconds ago (October 20)

  • Not so. For example, Obama was not eligible for the office IN THE FIRST PLACE (details to follow), and thus was not a legally sitting president TO BEGIN WITH. So, all that needs to happen to/with him is the Sergeant at Arms and Oath Keepers arrest him, and hold him for trial (on a whole host of charges by now, including fraud, perjury, and treason). And that way, incidentally, all the legislation that he has signed into law, and all the E.O.'s and P.D.'s that he has issued, and all the appointments that he has made - including to the SCOTUS, and inferior courts - go with him, into the dust bin. It is.needs to be as if he were never there; for he has never been there legally.

  • The issue is that he is not a 'natural born' citizen, as required for that particular office; which by definition extant at the time - for which there is considerable historical evidence - is a person "born in the country, of parents who are citizens..." It's from E. de Vattel's definitive tome of the day on such matters, 'The Law of Nations' - and that eligibility requirement for that particular office STILL STANDS, absent a constitutional amendment to the contrary. The confusion has come in because the Republican Party, which failed to do its duty as the opposition party of record, let Obama's illegal nomination and candidacy slide because the Repubs wanted to drive their OWN tank through the breach in the wall of the Constitution - the rule of law - on the matter; which they proved by running ineligible candidates in this election's nomination stages, in the form of Cruz, Rubio, and Jindal (for demographic reasons). Both major political parties having tried a total of 8 times between them, between 2003 and '08 alone, to get just such an amendment starting through Congress - proposals all having this issue as their common denominator - and failing each time even to get their proposals out of committee, such was the sensitivity around this particular issue. So: ThEY KNOW. And have known, the truth of this matter. And need to be taken down for it - on RICO-statute charges, for being the criminal enterprises that they are - when the time comes for the Truth to out on this matter. Which it will.

  • Which. It. Will.

If the Truth doesn't come out on this matter, I promise never to bother bringing this subject up in these pages again.  

Because I will be so disillusioned with Americans that I will give up on them.

Not on America. 

On them.

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